Will an LLC or an S-Corp really save you money?
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. We show you with your real numbers — a clear, written answer you can trust — then form the entity so it stands up in an audit, a lawsuit or a loan application.
I'm just starting out
We set you up right from day one — so you can refocus your time and energy on growing your business. The packets below include everything.
I already have an LLC or S-Corp
Is your current setup earning its keep — or quietly costing you more than it saves?
Which setup fits you? Watch the answer build as you go.
Six taps. No email needed. As you answer, the panel on the right fills in what we'd look at for your situation.
Who's in the business?
Where are you today?
Rough net profit per year — what's left after all business expenses are paid?
Expected gross sales per year — total revenue, before expenses?
Will you have outside investors — or hold real estate in the entity?
Do you also have a W-2 job on the side?
Is your S-Corp earning its keep?
You already have an S-Corp — the question is whether it saves more than it costs to run (salary, payroll, extra filings). That is exactly what the analysis checks, with your real numbers.
With employees, payroll and agency registrations move up the list — our packets handle those registrations end to end.
Partners change the picture.
With partners, the agreement and the profit split matter as much as the structure itself. A Partnership or LLC set up right keeps everyone clear from day one — and the analysis confirms which one pays.
With employees, payroll and agency registrations move up the list — our packets handle those registrations end to end.
Your LLC may be ready for the S-Corp question.
Around this profit level, the S-Corp election often starts to pay. The analysis shows you with your real numbers — so if you switch, you switch knowing it's right.
With employees, payroll and agency registrations move up the list — our packets handle those registrations end to end.
Your LLC is likely still the right home.
At this profit level the S-Corp usually isn't worth its costs yet. The analysis confirms nothing is leaking — and tells you the number at which switching starts to pay.
With employees, payroll and agency registrations move up the list — our packets handle those registrations end to end.
Your structure choice is worth real money every year.
At this profit level, the difference between structures shows up every single year. This is exactly where the analysis pays for itself — you'll see, in writing, the setup that keeps the most in your pocket.
With employees, payroll and agency registrations move up the list — our packets handle those registrations end to end.
An LLC is the common starting point.
Simple to run, protects your personal assets, and ready to upgrade when your profit grows. We confirm it fits your numbers first — then form it right.
With employees, payroll and agency registrations move up the list — our packets handle those registrations end to end.
The Quick Check is for general illustration only. It does not consider your complete situation and is not legal, tax or financial advice, and no client relationship is created by using it. Entity choice depends on facts specific to you; please confirm any decision with a qualified professional before acting on it.
Why the answer isn't obvious — see the numbers behind it+
Two things surprise most California owners: the state's extra LLC fee, and the federal QBI deduction. Here's each one in plain numbers.
LLCs pay a fee on gross receipts — on top of the $800 minimum.
Every entity pays California's $800 minimum franchise tax. LLCs also owe a separate fee based on total income — before expenses — so high revenue with thin margins can make an LLC surprisingly costly.
| Total California income | Annual LLC fee |
|---|---|
| Under $250,000 | $0 — just the $800 minimum |
| $250,000 – $499,999 | $900 |
| $500,000 – $999,999 | $2,500 |
| $1,000,000 – $4,999,999 | $6,000 |
| $5,000,000 and above | $11,790 |
The QBI deduction shrinks the S-Corp's headline savings.
Pass-through owners can deduct up to 20% of qualified business income. Your required S-Corp salary doesn't count as QBI — so part of what the S-Corp saves in payroll tax, it gives back in lost deduction.
Illustrative — the real split depends on your profit and salary. That's the math the analysis runs with your numbers.
LLC vs. S-Corp, at a glance.
| LLC | S-Corp | |
|---|---|---|
| California cost each year | $800 minimum + gross-receipts fee | Greater of $800 or 1.5% of net income |
| Federal tax on profit | Self-employment tax on all profit | Payroll tax on your salary only — distributions are exempt |
| Payroll required | No | Yes — a reasonable owner salary |
| QBI deduction | Full 20% potential | Reduced — your salary isn't QBI |
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We don't just file paperwork. We build entities that stand up.
We don't just register an entity name, hand you a couple of documents, leave you to figure things out by yourself, and never see you again. Our goal is a strong entity that can defend itself — in an audit, in a lawsuit, or on a loan application. And with us you don't just get an email or a couple pieces of paper: you get a complete physical entity book that you can keep forever.
Who asks for your LLC or Corporate Book — and why.
Auditors
In an IRS or FTB audit, your entity book — minutes, resolutions, agreements — is the evidence that your salary, distributions, and deductions were properly authorized. Weak records can cost you deductions, or even your S-election.
Courts
Your liability protection only holds if the entity is genuinely separate from you. In a lawsuit, courts look at your records and formalities — missing books make it easier to "pierce the veil" and reach your personal assets.
Banks & lenders
Loan applications ask for formation documents, resolutions, and proof of good standing — who owns the business and who's authorized to borrow. A complete book keeps approvals moving.
And we show you how to keep it that way.
An entity only keeps working the way it's supposed to if you do certain things every year — filings, records, and a few good habits. We set you up with all of them. See the annual compliance requirements for entities →
Your entity book — the part no filing service hands you.
Every packet ends with a physical book on your shelf. Here is what goes in it, and why each piece matters when someone asks.
- Formation filingsArticles as filed and stamped by the Secretary of State.
- Operating agreement or bylawsWho owns what, who decides, what happens if someone leaves.
- Membership or stock certificatesThe ownership record banks and buyers ask to see.
- Minutes and resolutionsThe decisions that authorize salary, distributions and loans.
- EIN and agency registrationsIRS, FTB and EDD letters, in one place.
- Seal and compliance calendarThe seal, plus what to do each year to stay in good standing.
What a filing service hands you
- A stamped Articles PDF by email
- An EIN confirmation letter
- A template agreement, if any, unsigned and unexplained
- Renewal reminders that upsell
- Nobody to call when the first notice arrives
What CNE hands you
- A written Tax Savings Analysis first — so you form the structure that pays
- Every state filing done and the government charges included
- A custom agreement, explained before you sign
- The physical entity book with minutes, certificates and seal
- IRS, FTB and EDD registrations, end to end
- Step-by-step compliance instructions and a team that answers the phone
From first conversation to a book on your shelf
Counted from when we have all your documents and information. Expedited processing is available.
Everything included in our packets.
Every packet is complete — filed right the first time, with your book, your registrations, and your compliance instructions in hand.
- All California state filing fees included. The government charges are part of your packet — nothing is added later.
- Articles of Organization filed with the CA Secretary of State. The filing that legally creates your LLC — done right the first time.
- Initial Statement of Information (Form LLC-12). Required within 90 days — missing it brings penalties and can suspend your LLC.
- Custom Operating Agreement. The rulebook courts and banks ask for — who owns what, who decides, and what happens if an owner leaves.
- Federal EIN registration. Your business’s tax ID — needed for banking, payroll, and every return you’ll file.
- Meeting minutes. Your organizational minutes, documented and stored in your book — the record auditors and courts ask for.
- Physical corporate book — record book, membership certificates, and seal. Not just an email or a couple pieces of paper — a complete physical entity book you can keep forever.
- S-Corp election guidance (Form 2553) for when it pays off. Your LLC is built so the upgrade is a clean, simple step when your net profit grows into it.
- Step-by-step owner compliance instructions. Exactly what to do each year to keep your protection and your good standing.
- All California state filing fees included. The government charges are part of your packet — nothing is added later.
- GP vs. LP structuring recommendation. The right type sets each partner’s liability and tax outcome from day one.
- Certificate of Limited Partnership (Form LP-1), when applicable. The state filing that makes limited liability real for your limited partners.
- Custom written partnership agreement. Settles capital, profit splits, withdrawal, and disputes — before they become disagreements.
- Special-allocation or pro-rata allocation setup. How profit is shared, set up correctly so the IRS respects it.
- Federal EIN registration. Your business’s tax ID — needed for banking, payroll, and every return you’ll file.
- Meeting minutes. Decisions between partners, documented — the record that prevents disputes and satisfies auditors.
- Physical corporate book. Your agreement, certificates, and minutes in a complete physical book you can keep forever.
- Form 1065 + Schedule K-1 reporting setup. Your partnership’s reporting set up so every partner’s share flows through cleanly.
- Step-by-step owner compliance instructions. Exactly what to do each year to keep your protection and your good standing.
- All California state filing fees included. The government charges are part of your packet — nothing is added later.
- Articles of Organization filed with the CA Secretary of State. The filing that legally creates your LLC — done right the first time.
- Initial Statement of Information (Form LLC-12). Required within 90 days — missing it brings penalties and can suspend your LLC.
- Custom multi-member Operating Agreement. Ownership, profit splits, decision-making, and exits — settled before they become disagreements.
- Partnership taxation setup — Form 1065 + Schedule K-1. Taxed as a partnership, so each member’s share flows through cleanly to their return.
- Federal EIN registration. Your business’s tax ID — needed for banking, payroll, and every return you’ll file.
- Meeting minutes. Decisions between members, documented — the record that prevents disputes and satisfies auditors.
- Physical corporate book. Your agreement, certificates, and minutes in a complete physical book you can keep forever.
- Step-by-step owner compliance instructions. Exactly what to do each year to keep your protection and your good standing.
- All California state filing fees included. The government charges are part of your packet — nothing is added later.
- Articles of Incorporation filed with the CA Secretary of State. The filing that legally creates your corporation.
- Federal S-election — Form 2553. Filed correctly and on time — the election your savings depend on, protected from day one.
- Physical corporate book & seal — bylaws, stock certificates, minute templates. Not just an email or a couple pieces of paper — a complete physical entity book you can keep forever, with the records auditors, courts, and banks ask for.
- Corporate bylaws and organizational resolutions. The internal rules that keep your corporation genuinely separate — and your liability protection intact.
- Meeting minutes. Your organizational and annual minutes, documented — evidence your corporation is run as a real entity.
- Reasonable-compensation guidance. A salary that holds up to the IRS protects your election and your savings. Payroll setup is available as an add-on.
- Agency registrations — IRS, FTB, and EDD. Every agency that expects to hear from a corporation, registered end to end.
- First-year Statement of Information + compliance calendar. Your first state filing done, and a calendar of what comes next.
- Step-by-step owner compliance instructions. Exactly what to do each year to keep your protection and your good standing.
You invest your trust in us. We invest our expertise on your business and our attention on you.
Care, time, knowledge, and experience — we stand by your side in the difficult moments, so you’re in a better place tomorrow than you are today.
Common questions
What is a Tax Savings Analysis?+
It's where every packet starts: we model your real numbers — federal and California — and give you a clear, written answer on which structure keeps the most in your pocket. It's $475, credited in full toward your formation packet if you move forward, so it becomes part of your formation investment.
Does an S-Corp really save money?+
Sometimes — and sometimes it costs more than it saves. An S-Corp typically starts to pay off once net profit — the money left over after all business expenses are paid — clears about $80,000 a year, and it requires a reasonable owner salary and payroll. That threshold is a rule of thumb: at about $80,000 of net profit and a reasonable salary near $45,000, the payroll-tax saving roughly covers the S-Corp’s yearly running cost, and the break-even moves with the salary you set and your actual costs. The analysis runs your real numbers so you decide with them in hand — and with peace of mind.
How long does formation take?+
An LLC or Partnership typically takes 2–3 weeks and an S-Corp 3–5 weeks, counted from when we have all your documents and information. Need it faster? Call us about expedited processing.
Can I start as an LLC and become an S-Corp later?+
Yes — and for many owners that's the right order. Switching too early can backfire twice: first, the S-Corp may not save you money yet; second, the salary, payroll, and extra filings it requires can cost you even more than what you're paying now, with no benefit. We usually recommend waiting and investing that money into growing your business instead. We set up your LLC so the S-Corp election is a clean, simple step when your profit grows into it.
Can I contact you if I have questions throughout the process?+
Yes — we'll be with you through the whole process to guide you and answer your questions. Real people, a call or email away.
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Keep more of what you earn — every single year.
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